The permanent grudges

Manager grudges

The record follows the people. Franchise changes do not reset who owns whom.

Grudge superlatives

Current managers only. Lifetime closeness and domination require at least 20 meetings so a short tenure cannot steal a historical headline.

Most playedJoe Presley vs. Samuel Nye38 games · 18-20 from Joe Presley’s side · since 2005

Closest lifetime grudgeBen Wildfire vs. Gary Camero11-11 across 22 games

Biggest lifetime edgeAlan Marks over Joe Presley23-6 in 29 meetings →

Playoff nemesisJonathan Crisp4-3 in the playoffs against Samuel Nye · 7 playoff meetings →

Highest-scoring grudge gameJoe Presley 154.93–180.13 Ben Wildfire335.06 combined points · 2019 week 5 · Your Worst Nightmares at The Penthouse Panda Bear →

Current league grudges

Only pairings between managers currently in the league are listed here. Their full records still include every season and every franchise they controlled.

Managers	Games	Lifetime	Playoffs	Playoff record	Since
Joe Presley vs. Samuel Nye	38	18-20	2	1-1	2005
Ben Wildfire vs. Jonathan Crisp	37	11-26	2	0-2	2005
Michael Chepul vs. Ryan Mindell	36	14-22	4	1-3	2005
Ben Wildfire vs. Michael Chepul	35	17-18	2	2-0	2005
Ben Wildfire vs. Samuel Nye	35	21-14	2	0-2	2005
Jonathan Crisp vs. Ryan Mindell	34	15-19	4	2-2	2005
Jonathan Crisp vs. Samuel Nye	33	16-17	7	4-3	2005
Ryan Mindell vs. Samuel Nye	33	16-17	1	1-0	2005
Michael Chepul vs. Nathan Hanna	33	23-10	2	2-0	2008
Joe Presley vs. Nathan Hanna	32	14-18	3	2-1	2008
Michael Chepul vs. Samuel Nye	32	18-13-1	2	0-1-1	2005
Gary Camero vs. Jonathan Crisp	32	9-23	3	0-3	2011
Ben Wildfire vs. Joe Presley	31	16-15	1	0-1	2005
Jonathan Crisp vs. Michael Chepul	31	22-9	4	2-2	2005
Joe Presley vs. Jonathan Crisp	30	14-16	1	1-0	2005
Alan Marks vs. Ryan Mindell	30	17-13	3	1-2	2009
Alan Marks vs. Nathan Hanna	29	15-14	2	2-0	2009
Ben Wildfire vs. Nathan Hanna	29	15-14	3	1-2	2008
Joe Presley vs. Michael Chepul	29	17-12	1	1-0	2005
Joe Presley vs. Ryan Mindell	29	10-19	2	1-1	2005
Alan Marks vs. Joe Presley	29	23-6	2	2-0	2009
Alan Marks vs. Ben Wildfire	28	15-13	3	2-1	2009
Ben Wildfire vs. Ryan Mindell	27	8-19	3	1-2	2005
Gary Camero vs. Ryan Mindell	27	8-19	1	1-0	2011
Alan Marks vs. Jonathan Crisp	26	11-15	3	1-2	2009
Gary Camero vs. Samuel Nye	25	12-13	3	1-2	2011
Alan Marks vs. Michael Chepul	24	13-11	2	1-1	2009
Jonathan Crisp vs. Nathan Hanna	24	11-13	—	—	2008
Alan Marks vs. Gary Camero	23	8-15	—	—	2011
Nathan Hanna vs. Ryan Mindell	23	8-15	—	—	2008
Ben Wildfire vs. Gary Camero	22	11-11	3	2-1	2011
Gary Camero vs. Michael Chepul	22	10-12	1	0-1	2011
Nathan Hanna vs. Samuel Nye	22	8-14	—	—	2008
Alan Marks vs. Samuel Nye	21	10-11	2	1-1	2009
Gary Camero vs. Nathan Hanna	19	9-10	1	1-0	2011
Gary Camero vs. Joe Presley	19	15-4	—	—	2011
Jordan Chin vs. Nathan Hanna	17	9-8	2	2-0	2018
Jonathan Crisp vs. Jordan Chin	16	7-9	3	1-2	2018
Jordan Chin vs. Ryan Mindell	16	6-10	1	1-0	2018
Alan Marks vs. Jordan Chin	15	3-12	2	0-2	2018
Jordan Chin vs. Samuel Nye	13	3-10	—	—	2018
Jordan Chin vs. Michael Chepul	11	6-5	1	0-1	2018
Gary Camero vs. Jordan Chin	10	5-5	2	2-0	2018
Joe Presley vs. Jordan Chin	9	2-7	—	—	2018
Ben Wildfire vs. Jordan Chin	7	3-4	—	—	2018

Former-manager grudges remain in the permanent ledger and individual manager files; they are simply omitted from this current-league directory. Regular-season games count, and after the regular-season boundary only championship-bracket games count. Consolation games never enter a grudge.